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Re: Early Scotland internationalists - new details

Postby ScottishFA » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:31 am

You're absolutely right, thanks. Blog changed!

(Second cap was 1890, though).

By the way, eufootball have him as James, which is wrong.
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Re: Early Scotland internationalists - new details

Postby ScottishFA » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:49 pm

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Re: Early Scotland internationalists - new details

Postby Partick Thistle » Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:26 pm

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Re: Early Scotland internationalists - new details

Postby ScottishFA » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:20 pm

Things have certainly moved on since I wrote my list of 'unknowns', in fact I have now pinned down every one of them.

I agree that McIntosh didn't play for Thistle, it is one of many discrepancies which came out of Doug Lamming's book (he says McIntosh left Third Lanark for Partick Thistle in 1905).

These are his dates:
William Forbes McIntosh
King’s Park, East Stirlingshire, Third Lanark 1901-10, Vale of Leven 1910-11
Born Cowane Street, Stirling, 2 January 1879 to Alexander McIntosh and Janet Ritchie
Died Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, 15 January 1973

There are photos of him on a family website:
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Re: Early Scotland internationalists - new details

Postby Partick Thistle » Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:27 pm

Great stuff.

I think I said it before on another thread, but I'll say it again - it's a monumental achievement dotting all those i's and crossing all those t's, 1872 to date.

I look forward to the definitive A to Z being published ; - )
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Re: Early Scotland internationalists - new details

Postby bluedragon » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:05 am

I had a search to see if this had come up before, could not see anything and so decided to post on this thread.

I have come across two different dates of birth quoted for Andy Cunningham – 30 January 1890 and 30 January 1891. However, I believe that the correct date is neither of these but 31 January 1891.

I have found the Birth Certificate for Andrew Cunningham born at Titchfield Street Galston to William and Agnes Cunningham on 31 January 1891.

In some records he has the middle name of Nesbit. However, Andrew Nesbit Cunningham was born in Glasgow in on 7 March 1890.
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Re: Early Scotland internationalists - new details

Postby ScottishFA » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:22 am

Yes, spot on. Born 31 January 1891, with no middle name.
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Re: Early Scotland internationalists - new details

Postby Vasco » Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:36 am

Interesting that, in the week of the death of Arnold Clark, the name Andy Cunningham should crop up, as I met him a couple of times when I worked for Arnold in my last couple of years at school and first couple at university. The word gentleman describes him accurately.
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Re: Early Scotland internationalists - new details

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Re: Early Scotland internationalists - new details

Postby LEATHERSTOCKING » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:00 pm

Not a new internationalist per se but a reclassification of an 1880s player. John Macdonald was "capped" vs. England in 1886 and is normally assigned to Queen`s Park as his club. Macdonald may have retained his membership there but his only known appearance in black & white hoops that season(1885-86) was vs. St.Peters in the Scottish Cup on 29th August 1885; thereafter all his football came with Edinburgh University or in one representative game for Edinburgh(vs. Glasgow). He even played for the University two days before his game against England. His affiliation should, therefore, read,"EDINBURGH UNIVERSITY & QUEEN`S PARK". It`s in similar vein to the brothers Smith of 1872-73 season who should both read,"SOUTH NORWOOD & QUEEN`S PARK" rather than just "QUEEN`S PARK" but, in those preregistration days with players turning out for whoever asked them sometimes different clubs on several successive Saturdays, where do you stop?
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Re: Early Scotland internationalists - new details

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Re: Early Scotland internationalists - new details

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Re: Early Scotland internationalists - new details

Postby EastJunior » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:27 pm

Thanks for that update.

The 1949 touring team was actually Hajduk Split and not the Yugoslav national team, although many sources in Australia lazily labelled them as such.
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