Scotland Semi-Pro Internationals

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Scotland Semi-Pro Internationals

Postby jimmygrumble » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:02 pm

Now that the Scottish Semi-Professional side has been disbanded, is there any resource where international appearances can be found?

Newspaper coverage of Scotland Semi-Pro games tended to be poor, but I would be interested in obtaining a list of players capped at this level
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Re: Scotland Semi-Pro Internationals

Postby HibeeJibee » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:10 pm

jimmygrumble wrote:Now that the Scottish Semi-Professional side has been disbanded, is there any resource where international appearances can be found?

Newspaper coverage of Scotland Semi-Pro games tended to be poor, but I would be interested in obtaining a list of players capped at this level

Try Emailing the SFA and/or the Hampden Museum? List of games is here:
http://www.rsssf.com/tablese/eur-semipro.html
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Postby jimmygrumble » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:45 pm

Many thanks HibeeJibee.

The results give a great starting point, and thanks for the tip.
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Postby prorege » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:56 pm

There was at least one other Semi Pro international, against Italy in 1974/5. It was played in Pescara and was abandoned during the second half due to rain.

In addition the Scotland Semi Pro side played against the Highland League in 1975/6 and 1980/1, if not more often. They also played preparation games against club sides prior to the international tournaments in the early 1980s.
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Postby stuthejag » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:28 pm

I have a wee list of the Scotland team for most games between 1979 & 1983.

PM me for details.
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Postby LEATHERSTOCKING » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:48 am

The game in Pescara in December 1974 was a Serie B select vs. a Scottish Division Two select & was indeed abandoned due to heavy rain in the 2nd half.
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Postby LEATHERSTOCKING » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:38 pm

Ironically, the last Queen`s Park player to turn out for Scotland was Jimmy Gilmour who came on as a second half substitute for the "semi professionals" vs. England @ Scarborough on 4th June 1983!
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Postby ScottishFA » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:01 am

As a starting point, the Scotland teams and scorers for the tournaments in 1979, 1980, 1981 and 1982 are listed in full in the SFA Football Annual.

This was published for five seasons from 1978 to 1982, and although the first edition is too early for this tournament, editions 2-5 are useful.

Unfortunately thereafter, the tournament seems to be ignored by the reference books, including Rothmans and the SFL Review.
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Postby HibeeJibee » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:18 pm

It would also be legitimate to observe that the team from the late 1990s and 2000s bears little connection to that of the 1980s. As far as I'm aware the 1980s side and before was truly a 'semi-pro select' i.e. the best Scots who were part-timers could participate. The more recent incarnation was open to HFL, EOSFL and SOSFL players (though the SOSFL has not had a select side for long time, hampering scouting and selection, which coupled with friction over travel issues effectively saw what few players of calibre they had excluded)... therefore is more apt called the 'non-league select'.

That said they performed OK versus Conference/League of Wales players.
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