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Division C - the last few results

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:44 pm
by ScottishFA
I've been trawling through the Glasgow Herald and Evening Times online archives in an effort to finish off the Division C results from 46/47 to 54/55. Nearly there, although my eyes are smarting! Completed info up to 49/50 has been posted on Brian McColl's http://scottish-football-historical-arc ... m/cdiv.htm, but I still have some gaps and would appreciate any contributions - perhaps old football programmes may help if the newspapers can't.

46/47
Date required for Dundee United A v Dundee A (result 2-5)
League Cup
Score required for Montrose v Dundee A (scheduled for 1 January 1947 but no result reported)

47/48 complete
48/49 complete
49/50 complete

50/51
North West
Date and score required for Brechin v Montrose (played Jan 2 but abandoned with score 2-0); the result may have stood.
Dundee A v Heart of Midlothian A on Dec 23, noted as 2-3 in Scotsman, 2-2 in the Herald - which is correct?
Brechin City v Heart of Midlothian A was played on Feb 3. However, I have a match programme for a game between the teams on Mar 31 1951, was this a friendly?

South West
Date required for Rangers A v Hamilton Academical A (originally scheduled Dec 26). Score was 1-2.

51/52
NE
Date required for Raith Rovers A v Dundee A, originally 29 Sep but postponed because of Second XI cup tie.
SW
Date and score required for Morton A v St Mirren A (originally scheduled Jan 1)

52/53
NE
Date and scores required for:
St Johnstone A v Aberdeen A (postponed from Jan 15)
Montrose v Hearts A
Dundee A v Dunfermline A
Leith Athletic v St Johnstone A

SW
Date and score required for Rangers A v Queen of the South A

League Cup
Date and scores required for
Airdrie A v Partick Thistle A
Motherwell A v Airdrie A
Kilmarnock A v Clyde A

The League Cup Final was played on 14 May 1953 at Pittodrie
Aberdeen A 1, Rangers A 1 (after extra time)
I can find no trace of a replay.

53/54
NE
Date required for Brechin City v Falkirk A (score 6-1)
Date and score required for Stirling A v Dundee A

SW
Dates and scores required for
Clyde A v Rangers A
Motherwell A v Partick Thistle A
Partick A v Queen of the South A
Partick A v Rangers A
St Mirren A v Kilmarnock A
Stranraer A v Third LanarkA
Third Lanark A v Rangers A

League Cup
Date and score required for
Hamilton A v Clyde A
Partick Thistle A v St Mirren A

Final: Rangers A v Partick Thistle A was reported as being held over to following season, but I can find no trace of it being played.

54/55
SW
Date and score required for:
Partick Thistle A v Queen of the South A
Queen of the South A v Kilmarnock A

Supplementary League
Score required for St Mirren A v Partick A, scheduled for September 22 but no result in following day's papers.

If anyone would like the results sent to them as a series of Word documents, I'm happy to email them. Just send me a PM.

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:41 pm
by soccerhistory
46/47Date required for Dundee United A v Dundee A (result 2-5)
This was played on Monday 9 September.

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:51 pm
by sureitsza
50-51
Date required for Rangers A v Hamilton Academical A (originally scheduled Dec 26). Score was 1-2.

The date was Jan 3 (The Glasgow Herald Jan 4)

51-52
Date required for Raith Rovers A v Dundee A, originally 29 Sep but postponed because of Second XI cup tie.

The date was Oct 1 (The Glasgow Herald Oct 2)

Still searching ......

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:46 pm
by sureitsza
52/53
NE
Date and scores required for:St Johnstone A v Aberdeen A (postponed from Jan 15) - Date: Apr 15, Score: 0-1

Dundee A v Dunfermline A - Date: Apr 15, Score: 0-0

SW
Date and score required for

League Cup
Motherwell A v Airdrie A - Date: Apr 15, Score 2-0 Listed under title Div C (north-east) There are already results in the league grid on Brian's site so this should be the League Cup tie .

53/54
NE
Date required for Brechin City v Falkirk A (score 6-1) – Date Dec 12
Date and score required for Stirling A v Dundee A – Date Dec 12, Score 0-1

SW
Dates and scores required for Clyde A v Rangers A – Date Dec 12, Score 2-3
Motherwell A v Partick Thistle A – Date Dec 12, Score 1-1
Partick A v Rangers A – Date: Dec 25, Score: 1-2
St Mirren A v Kilmarnock A – Date Dec 12, Score 5-2
Stranraer A v Third Lanark A – Date Dec 12, Score 4-1

All from The Glasgow Herald.

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:29 pm
by Gordon Baird
Scottish FA - Could you confirm that in the 1948/49 Supplementary League, Section B, the score on April 27 was Dunfermline 1 Leith 8?
If so, the final table would be wrong - it suggests a score of 1-5.
Thanks

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:54 pm
by BMCCOLL
You're right, the correct score is Dunfermline 1-5 Leith (Scotsman, 28 April 1949). I'll adjust the page on the site accordingly.

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:20 pm
by Gordon Baird
Thanks, Brian, 1-5 is quite bad enough!

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:24 pm
by ScottishFA
Thanks for all the input so far - it all helps!

However, just to show it is never easy, I realise on looking again at the original info on Brian's site that there are a few duplicate dates listed for 52/53 in the South and West Division. For example, Motherwell v East Stirling, Kilmarnock and Morton have the same dates as Queen of the South against the same opponents; Motherwell v Kilmarnock and v Partick are both given as December 27.

I don't know where this research came from, but if anyone has a quick and simple explanation it will save trawling through the archives for that season to get the correct dates.

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:03 pm
by honestman
A lot of the original research was done by myself and Tony Brown. My own research was in the pre-computer days and was all written in a note-book which has since been thrown out although this was after I had input the information onto my computer and then later sent on to Brain McColl. I can only assume that I have typed up the wrong information for the games that have been mentioned and of course now cannot check the original information. :oops:
I will have a sift through the 1952/53 papers to find the correct information - unless of course if someone manages to do that before me.

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:15 pm
by honestman
OK - after a quick check can establish that...........
Queen of the South played East Stirlingshire on Dec 13, Kilmarnock on Dec 27 and Morton on Mar 21
and that Motherwell played Partick Thistle on Dec 27

so still to find Motherwell v Kilmarnock, East Stirlingshire and Morton

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:44 pm
by honestman
Found two of the three Motherwell games from searching all the Saturday dates(August to April)
Motherwell v Kilmarnock on Oct 4 and v Morton on Dec 6

Just hope there are not any other mistakes :cry:

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:45 pm
by sureitsza
Brechin City v Heart of Midlothian A was played on Feb 3. However, I have a match programme for a game between the teams on Mar 31 1951, was this a friendly?
Hearts’ Programme Guide states a Division C match.

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:45 pm
by BMCCOLL
The Evening Times and Herald gives results for both C Division sections that day, but neither Brechin nor Hearts 'A' are mentioned.

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:59 am
by sureitsza
53/54
SW
Dates and scores required for
Partick A v Queen of the South A

31 Dec Partick Thistle ‘A’ 3-1 Queen of the South ‘A’

54/55
SW
Date and score required for:
Partick Thistle A v Queen of the South A

31 Dec Partick Thistle ‘A’ v Queen of the South ‘A’ Only h-t score (4-0) in the Times that day, then no papers on the 1 Jan.

Re: Division C - the last few results

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:42 pm
by ScottishFA
54/55
Supplementary League
Score required for St Mirren A v Partick A, scheduled for September 22 but no result in following day's papers

It was played on Monday Sept 20, and the score was 4-2.

Keep them coming!