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Western League

Post by J.S.Norway » Wed Dec 25, 2019 7:15 pm

Can somebody please help with tables for Scottish Western League 1915-1923?

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Re: Western League

Post by J.S.Norway » Wed Dec 25, 2019 7:23 pm

And also Scottish Alliance 1923/24?

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Post by BMCCOLL » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:16 am

Western League
1915-16
Vale of Leven 22 16 4 2 66 27 36
Clydebank 21 15 2 4 49 23 32
Royal Albert 21 10 4 7 49 38 24
Stevenston United 21 10 3 8 32 41 23
Albion Rovers 22 9 4 9 34 36 22
Johnstone 22 9 3 10 41 40 21
Dykehead 20 8 3 9 46 46 19
Wishaw Thistle 20 6 5 9 35 46 17
Dumbarton Harp 22 8 2 12 49 52 18
Abercorn 22 7 2 13 42 57 16
Renton 21 7 0 14 34 61 14
Arthurlie 22 6 2 14 47 57 14


1916-17
Clydebank 16 10 3 3 33 15 23
Stevenston United 15 10 2 3 26 15 22
Dumbarton Harp 14 9 0 5 28 15 18
Abercorn 16 7 4 5 29 23 18
Vale of Leven 16 7 3 6 28 23 17
Albion Rovers 16 3 5 8 17 24 11
Arthurlie 14 3 3 8 16 27 9
Johnstone 14 2 5 7 14 30 9
Renton 15 2 5 8 16 35 9

Dykehead, Royal Albert and Wishaw Thistle withdrew

1917-18
Albion Rovers 14 9 2 3 39 16 20
Renton 14 9 1 4 25 19 19
Arthurlie 14 8 1 5 32 23 17
Dumbarton Harp 14 6 2 6 26 25 14
Stevenston United 14 6 1 7 23 26 13
Abercorn 14 3 5 6 15 21 11
Johnstone 14 3 4 7 18 34 10
Vale of Leven 14 3 2 9 16 30 8

1918-19
Dumbarton Harp 14 10 4 0 28 10 24
Albion Rovers 14 10 1 3 35 12 21
Renton 14 7 3 4 24 20 17
Vale of Leven 14 5 5 4 25 19 15
Johnstone 14 5 4 5 22 22 14
Stevenston United 14 3 4 7 22 30 10
Arthurlie 14 1 4 9 17 31 6
Abercorn 14 1 3 10 10 39 5


1919-20
Stevenston United 22 13 5 4 42 26 31
Royal Albert 22 12 6 4 52 34 30
Johnstone 22 12 3 7 49 31 27
Vale of Leven 20 10 5 5 52 26 25
Dumbarton Harp 20 9 4 7 36 31 22
Abercorn 19 9 2 8 37 34 20
Galston 16 8 3 5 32 16 19
Queen’s Park Strollers 22 8 3 11 41 42 19
Dykehead 21 7 3 11 36 46 17
Renton 17 6 1 10 20 35 13
Beith 20 3 2 15 19 70 8
Hurlford 17 1 5 11 15 40 7


1920-21
Johnstone 22 15 4 3 49 18 34
Dykehead 20 11 2 7 45 28 24
Galston 21 8 8 5 36 27 24
Hamilton Academical ‘A’ 16 10 3 3 35 20 23
Vale of Leven 22 9 4 9 40 38 22
Royal Albert 21 8 3 10 44 39 19
Beith 19 6 6 7 35 13 18
Dumbarton Harp 19 7 3 9 27 30 17
Stevenston United 19 7 3 9 37 51 17
Clydebank ‘A’ 19 7 2 10 26 38 16
Renton 15 5 1 9 24 35 11
Girvan Athletic 7 0 2 5 7 21 2
Hurlford 8 0 0 8 4 37 0


1921-22
Dykehead 19 13 4 2 38 13 30
Arthurlie 18 13 3 2 53 20 29
Royal Albert 19 10 4 5 39 27 24
Beith 17 7 4 6 33 26 18
Stevenston United 17 7 4 6 24 22 18
Leith Athletic 18 7 1 10 23 50 15
Queen of the South 13 5 4 4 21 18 14
Hurlford 12 4 3 5 24 20 11
Galston 19 4 3 12 26 40 11
Dumbarton Harp 14 3 3 8 16 32 9
Queen's Park Victoria XI 18 1 3 14 18 49 5

1922-23
Queen of the South 20 17 3 0 69 12 37
Arthurlie 21 11 3 7 46 29 25
Beith 20 10 3 7 45 29 23
Nithsdale Wanderers 18 8 6 4 27 12 22
Galston 19 8 6 5 35 22 22
Peebles Rovers 19 9 4 6 35 38 20
Royal Albert 20 7 6 7 35 39 20
Dykehead 21 6 7 8 30 32 19
Helensburgh 22 6 4 12 29 58 16
Solway Star 20 3 3 12 25 44 9
Queen’s Park Victoria XI 18 3 3 12 25 44 9
Hurlford 18 3 2 13 14 45 8
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Re: Western League

Post by J.S.Norway » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:00 pm

Thank you!!

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Re: Western League

Post by bluedragon » Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:37 am

J.S.Norway wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 7:23 pm
And also Scottish Alliance 1923/24?
The Falkirk Herald (Saturday 10 May 1924) said “the following table shows how this competition finished for the season. Very few of the clubs completed the full schedule of matches.

Rangers 25 15 6 4 38 15 36
Heart of Midlothian 24 10 10 4 35 22 30
Aberdeen 24 11 6 7 48 33 28
Queen's Park 24 8 11 5 40 35 27
St Mirren 24 8 9 7 46 37 25
Airdrieonians 23 8 7 8 47 44 23
Dundee 24 8 7 9 33 37 23
Kilmarnock 24 9 4 11 42 52 22
Ayr United 25 9 4 12 35 47 22
Third Lanark 25 6 10 9 21 36 22
Leith Athletic 24 7 6 11 27 38 20
Partick Thistle 23 6 7 10 39 45 19
Falkirk 24 8 3 13 36 40 19

The table does not balance but it could be that matches against Motherwell, who withdrew in mid-season, may be included. For example, Rangers are showing as playing 25 matches but there are only 12 other clubs listed in the table and not Motherwell.

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Post by J.S.Norway » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:54 pm

Thank you!!

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Re: Western League

Post by BMCCOLL » Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:49 pm

Scottish Alliance 1923-24
Rangers 22 13 6 3 33 15 32
Aberdeen 24 11 7 6 47 32 29
Heart of Midlothian 24 9 10 5 33 25 28
Queen’s Park 24 8 11 5 40 34 27
St Mirren 24 7 9 8 45 41 23
Airdrieonians 23 8 7 8 48 45 23
Kilmarnock 24 9 4 11 42 52 22
Third Lanark 23 6 10 7 22 33 22
Leith Athletic 23 7 6 10 29 34 20
Ayr United 23 8 4 11 33 42 20
Falkirk 23 8 3 12 35 39 19
Partick Thistle 22 6 7 9 39 45 19
Dundee 23 5 8 10 29 38 18

All clubs are reserve XIs except Leith Athletic which fielded their first XI
Motherwell withdrew in October 1923 after losing to Ayr (2-3), Leith (0-1), Dundee (1-4) and Rangers (0-4)
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Re: Western League

Post by bluedragon » Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:28 pm

Thanks Brian, I cannot see how the Falkirk Herald's table was so far out even with Motherwell's results!

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Re: Western League

Post by BMCCOLL » Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:44 pm

Douglas, the table I give is compiled from the results I have, so is not official. The Falkirk Herald, whose table I have also seen, must have had access to some sort of "official" table but it is woefully inaccurate as none of the totals balance. I reckon Motherwell probably played one or two more than the four matches I've found, and so far I have been unable to trace the results of five other matches. Plus there is the possibility of some matches being replayed due to various circumstances although I haven't come across any (yet).
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Re: Western League

Post by bluedragon » Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:51 am

Brian. Thank you for the explanation. Falkirk supporters would have preferred your league table, with the Bairns off the bottom, to the one published in their local newspaper!

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Re: Western League

Post by Boabthe warrior » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:29 pm

If the Falkirk Herald is to believed then the Rangers Reserves v Falkirk Reserves was played after April 26th with Rangers winning one - nil. Any Rangers fan with the result and date please.
Here are the Bairns results
FALKIRK 'A' 1923-24 Scottish Alliance League
Nov 10 Aberdeen ‘A’ (H) 2-3 Oct 6 Aberdeen ‘A’ (A) 2-4
Mar 8 Airdrie ‘A’ (H) 2-1 Aug 25 Airdrie ‘A’ (A) 0-4
Jan 5 Ayr United ‘A’ (H) 5-0 Dec 29 Ayr United ‘A’ (A) 0-2
Dec 1 Dundee ‘A’ (H) 1-2 Nov 17 Dundee ‘A’ (A) 0-2
Aug 18 Hearts ‘A’ (H) 1-1 Nov 3 Hearts ‘A’ (A) 0-2
Apr 26 Kilmarnock ‘A’ (H) 4-0 Nov 24 Kilmarnock ‘A’ (A) 1-4
Sept 8 Leith Athletic (H) 3-1 Dec 8 Leith Athletic (A) 1-3
Feb 16 Partick Thistle ‘A’ (H) 5-1 Mar 15 Partick Thistle ‘A’ (A) 2-1
Oct 27 Queen’s Park Strollers (H) 2-1 Oct 20 Queen’s Park Strollers (A) 1-3
Mar 29 Rangers ‘A’ (H) 3-1
Sept 1 St Mirren ‘A’ (H) 0-0 Mar 1 St Mirren ‘A’ (A) 0-0
Dec 15 Third Lanark ‘A’ (H) 0-1 Apr 5 Third Lanark ‘A’ (A) 1-2

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