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Games played by a United Kingdom side

Post by Carlucci » Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:39 am

Could you give us some details about the following matches played by a United Kingdom side or a Rest of the United Kingdom team? Could you tell us the line-ups, scoring sequence and scorers, attendances, referees and the nationality and club from the players who took part in them? Who was the manager or the coach for the United Kingdom side and for the opposition? These are the ties:

May 10, 1947; Hampden Park, Glasgow: Great Britain 6-1 Rest of Europe
August 13, 1955; Windsor Park, Belfast: Great Britain 1-4 Rest of Europe
April 28, 1965; Victoria Ground, Stoke-on-Trent: Great Britain 4-6 Rest of Europe

December 3, 1951; Ninian Park, Cardiff: Wales 3-2 Rest of the United Kingdom
July 21, 1969; Ninian Park, Cardiff: Wales 0-1 Rest of the United Kingdom

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Post by Sat31March1928 » Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:56 am

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Post by Sat31March1928 » Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:57 am

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Post by Scottish » Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:43 pm

Apologies for the delay in replying to this, Carlos, but I've been taking a break in your country (though fortunately not suffering the torrid temperatures in your part of Spain).

To add to the newspaper reports above: the 1947 game was to mark the return of the four home nations to FIFA. The Great Britain team consisted of five Englishmen, three Scots, two Welshmen and one from Northern Ireland. Ten of the players were from Football League clubs and just one from the Scottish League. Technically speaking, the team should have been labelled as a UK side as Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, the correct term being the United Kingdom of Great Britain AND Northern Ireland.

Until well into the 1970s Northern Ireland described their team as simply ‘Ireland.’ As this is clearly inaccurate I have listed their players as ‘NI.’

The ‘home’ side was: Swift (Man City, Eng), Hardwick (Middlesbrough, Eng), Hughes (Birmingham City, Wal), Macaulay (Brentford, Sco), Vernon (West Brom, NI), Burgess (Spurs, Wal), Matthews (Stoke, Eng), Mannion (Middlesbrough, Eng), Lawton (Chelsea, Eng), Steel (Morton, Sco), Liddell (Liverpool, Sco)

George Hardwick was captain.

The ‘Rest of Europe’ side was also a bit of a misnomer. No Germans were considered nor were there any players from Spain & Portugal. And the only ‘Iron Curtain’ country represented was Czechoslovakia which at the time was not fully within the Soviet sphere of influence.

Da Rui (France), Petersen (Denmark), Steffen (Switzerland), Carey (Eire (Republic of Ireland), Parola (Italy), Ludl (Czechoslovakia), Lambrechts (Belgium), Gren (Sweden), Nordahl (Sweden), Wilkes (Netherlands), Praest (Denmark)

The attendance was 129,117 and the entire proceeds were donated to FIFA which was then struggling for money.

Perhaps someone knows why there were no Old Firm players involved? Maybe they gave a higher priority to the Glasgow Cup Final contested between them four days later? At any rate that was an amazing attendance for a match featuring just three Scots and with the only Scottish-domiciled player coming from Morton!

Wilf Mannion opened the scoring with a penalty in 22 minutes with Nordahl equalising two minutes later. Mannion scored again in 33 minutes, Billy Steel two minutes after that and Tommy Lawton after a further two minutes to make it 4-1 at half-time. There was an own goal by Parola in 74 minutes and Lawton completed the scoring eight minutes from time.

Johnny Carey captained the ‘Rest.’ Walter Winterbottom oversaw selection for the GB side while Austrian Karl Rappan picked the ‘Rest.’

Referee was G Reader (Eng)

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The 1955 game was to mark the Irish FA’s 75th anniversary. The (again, misnamed) GB side was; Kelsey (Arsenal. Wal), Sillett (Chelsea, Eng), McDonald (Sunderland, Sco), Blanchflower (Spurs, NI (Capt.), J Charles (Leeds, Wal), Peacock (Celtic, NI), Matthews (Blackpool, Eng), Johnstone (Man City, Sco), Bentley (Chelsea, Eng), McIlroy (Burnley, NI), Liddell (Liverpool, Sco)

The Rest of Europe team was stronger than in 1947: Buffon (Italy), Gustaffsson (Sweden) Brendt (Belgium), Ocwirk (Austria (Capt.), Jonquet (France), Boskov (Yugoslavia), Sorensen (Italy), Vukas (Yugoslavia), Kopa (France), Travasos (Portugal), Vincente (France)

Bobby Johnstone opened the scoring in 25 minutes with Vincente equalising two minutes later. There was no further scoring until thirteen minutes from the end when Vukas scored for the rest. The Yugoslav completed a quickfire hat-trick with goals in the 87th (pen) & 88th minutes. Referee was J Bronkhorst of the Netherlands and the crowd was around 35,000. Walter Winterbottom was again in charge of the ‘home’ team with Crahay of Belgium picking the ‘Rest.’

You will see that only Stanley Matthews and Billy Liddell played in both games.

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The 1965 match was a testimonial game for Stanley Matthews and was watched by 34,450. The GB side was: Waiters (Blackpool, Eng), Cohen (Fulham, Eng), Thomson (Wolves, Eng), Haynes (Fulham, Eng), Flowers (Wolves, Eng), Baxter (Rangers, Sco), Matthews (Stoke, Eng), Greaves (Spurs, Eng), Gilzean (Spurs, Sco) sub Ritchie (Stoke, Eng), Douglas (Blackburn, Eng), C Jones (Spurs, Wal)

The ‘Rest of Europe’ side was a very strong line-up – a mark of the respect Matthews was held in by his fellow players: Yashin (USSR), Johansen (Denmark), Schnellinger (West Germany), Pluskal, Popluhar, Masopust (all Czechoslovakia), Henderson (Scotland), Kubala, Di Stefano, Puskas (all Spain though none were actually Spaniards), Vandeboer (Belgium) Sorensen (Denmark) replaced Di Stefano.

Vandeboer and Puskas put the Rest two up in the first seven minutes before Bryan Douglas scored in twelve minutes for the ‘home’ team. Puskas scored again in 24 minutes, Jimmy Greaves replied ten minutes later then Masopust scored two minutes from half-time to make it 4-2 to the visitors at the break.

Kubala added a fifth twenty minutes into the second half then John Ritchie (75) and Douglas (81) reduced the deficit to 5-4. Willie Henderson scored the winner a minute from time.

Referee was Arthur Ellis (Eng). No details on the coaches.


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The 1951 game in Cardiff was to mark the 75th anniversary of the Welsh FA. The home team was: Shortt (Plymouth Argyle), Barnes (Arsenal), Sherwood (Cardiff City), Paul (Man City), Daniel (Arsenal), Burgess (Spurs), Foulkes (Newcastle), Morris (Burnley), Ford (Sunderland), I Allchurch (Swansea Town), Clarke (Man City)

The Rest of the UK team was: Cowan (Morton, Sco), Young (Rangers, Sco), McMichael (Newcastle, NI), Docherty (Preston, Sco), Vernon (West Brom, NI), Wright (Wolves, Eng), G Smith (Hibs, Sco), Fleming (East Fife, Sco), Lofthouse (Bolton, Eng), Baily (Spurs, Eng), Medley (Spurs, Eng)

Goals from Ivor Allchurch (15) & Trevor Ford (23) gave the home side a 2-0 interval lead. Allchurch scored again in 62 minutes. Charlie Fleming pulled one back two minutes later and Les Medley made it 3-2 seven minutes from time.

The match was watched by 26,454 and the referee was Mervyn Griffiths (Wales). No details on coaches.

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The 1969 game was to mark the investiture of the Prince of Wales and not, as erroneously reported by some sources, in aid of the Aberfan disaster which was three years earlier (though it's possible that the proceeds or part thereof went to survivors of Aberfan).

Wales were managed by Dave Bowen, the Rest of the UK by Alf Ramsey. Mervyn Griffiths was again the referee and the attendance was 13,605.

Wales: Sprake (Leeds), Rodrigues (Leicester), Thomas (Swindon), Hennessey (Nottingham Forest), England (Spurs), Moore (Charlton), B Jones (Cardiff), C Jones (Fulham), R Davies (Southampton), Toshack (Cardiff), Rees (Nottingham Forest) (subbed by Reece (Sheffield United)

Rest of the UK: Jennings (Spurs, NI), Gemmell (Celtic, Sco), Cooper (Leeds, Eng) (sub Newton (Blackburn, Eng), Bremner (Leeds, Sco) J Charlton (Leeds, Eng), Mullery (Spurs, Eng), Best (Man Utd, NI), Lee (Man City, Eng) (sub Henderson, Rangers, Sco), Dougan (Wolves, NI), R Charlton (Man Utd, Eng), Hughes (Celtic, Sco)

Francis Lee scored the only goal after 34 minutes.

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Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:59 pm

I recall during research on the 1947 game a few years ago that there were two or three Soviet Union players chosen to play but there was some visa problem or something of that nature and they dropped out but I`m damned if I can find my notes. David. could you check with contemporary SCOTMAN papers on that? I used Glasgow Heralds & Daily Records at the time.

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Post by Scottish » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:12 pm

I can't find anything on that but I did find that George Young & Willie Waddell of Rangers were named as reserves for the team. There are also references to "the selectors" which prompts the question which selectors? Winterbottom was in charge of coaching but he didn't pick England teams by himself let alone this side. Presumably there was selectorial representation from all four home nations.

One aside. After the match Third Lanark and Hibs took the field to play an A Division game and the crowd shrunk by over 120,000 with just 5,487 staying behind for Thirds and Hibs.

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Post by Banni » Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:00 am

I seem to remember denis Law playing for the rest of the world in a game, also who were the teams that took part in the common Market game, to celebrate Uk & some others entering the EU.
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Post by Scottish » Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:05 pm

Denis took part in a few select games where the team was entitled 'World XI' or 'Rest of Europe,' most notably in the match to mark the Danish FA's 75th anniversary in 1964 when he scored one with Jimmy Greaves netting twice and Eusebio also on the scoresheet in a 4-2 win for the Rest against a Scandinavian select (a game in which Jim Baxter also played and Alex Hamilton made a substitute appearance)and in Willi Schulz's farewell game in Hamburg in 1973, in which Ronnie McKinnon also featured and Lou Macari scored twice after coming on as a sub for Bobby Charlton.

But the match I think you are talking about was at Wembley in October 1963 to commemorate the FA's centenary. England won 2-1 with goals from Terry Paine and Jimmy Greaves. Denis scored for the Rest of the World team which fielded 16 players in total with four substitutions ( a real novelty in the British game at that time) at half-time, one of whom was Jim Baxter. Scotland's Bobby Davidson was the referee and there was a capacity 100,000 attendance

The other game you mention was between a UK/ROI/Denmark side (the three newcomers to the then Common Market) against a select from the original members (France, Italy, West Germany, Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg, though there were no players from the last in the team).

Billed as The Three v The Six it was played at Wembley on January 3rd 1973. The Three side was picked by Sir Alf Ramsey and was:
Jennings (Spurs/NI), Storey (Arsenal/Eng), Hughes (Liverpool/Eng), Bell (Man City/Eng) - sub JS Olsen (Den), Hunter (Ipswich/NI), Moore (West Ham/Eng), Lorimer (Leeds/Sco), Giles (Leeds/ROI), Stein (Coventry/Sco), Charlton (Man Utd/Eng) capt, HM Jensen (Munchengladbach/Den) - sub Ball(Arsenal, Eng)

The Six were chosen by West German manager Helmut Schoen:
Piot (Bel) - sub Zoff (Ita), Tresor (Fra) - sub Suurbier (Hol), Vogts (W Ger), Blankenberg (W Ger), Beckenbauer (W Ger) - sub Krol (Hol), Neeskens (Hol), Grabowski (W Ger), Van Hanegem (Hol) - sub Wimmer (W Ger), Muller (W Ger), Netzer (W Ger) capt, Bereta (Fra)

The Three won 2-0 with second half goals from Henning Jensen & Colin Stein and the crowd was 36,500. England's Norman Burtenshaw was the referee.

While Sir Alf always seemed reluctant to pick Scottish League players for the select teams he managed, this time he had a good excuse. Unlike England there was a full Scottish programme two days before this game.

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Post by Essex Corcaigh » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:04 pm

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One small item of info for you. In the 1947 game Swiss international William Steffen played for the rest. He actually played 15 games for Chelsea as an amateur that season, one of the first foreign players to play in the Football League after World War II.

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Post by Scottish » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:18 pm

All non-British/Irish players in England at that time more or less had to play as amateurs as there was a ban in place on professionals with less than two years residency qualifications from the 1930s right up to 1978.

No such ban existed in Scotland so players like Benny Arentoft & Per Bartram in the 1960s/70s could move directly to English clubs on pro forms having "served their time" in Scottish football.

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Post by footysphere » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:55 pm

The 1955 game was indeed billed as a UK rather than GB side. I believe this match is the only instance of a UK named side taking to the field and containing players from all four home associations ..

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