Snuff wrote:To be fair to Alan Hansen, any time I've heard him use "We" or "Us", he has been speaking about English football as an entity rather than the England team - which I can take. He's been involved in English football for so long, it is probably now second nature to him.
I forgot to say earlier, I have a distinct recollection from the 2006 World Cup when they showed the studio reaction to an England goal (I forget the actual game) that when Lineker, Lawrenson, professional paid supporter Wrighty and co were shown all (quite naturally) jumping with joy in the studio, Hansen remained firmly seated.
Snuff wrote:We Scots now have a problem for Sunday - given that Howard Webb has got the final. The entire commentary on whichever part of the English media we are tuned to will be about "our" referee.
So much for my tip of Archundia though I suppose a Spanish-speaking referee might have caused problems with the Dutch (though every Dutch person I've ever met seems able to speak several languages fluently) in terms of neutrality.
You're right of course, and Simon Rice in The Independent has been quick to spot the downsides.
However, as I mentioned previously, that two or three-second gap between satellite and terrestrial TV which means Spanish goals are celebrated in the street before a shot has been struck on BBC/ITV means that I shall watch on Telecinco where, instead of constant wittering on about the referee I shall endure being constantly reminded about how many corners Spain have won, how much more possession they have had and the repeated use of players first names which makes it sound as if they are all personal friends of the commentators.
Alongside the beer adverts which appear under the clock every time there is a stoppage and the repeated cries of 'Vamos España' every time the ball crosses into the Dutch half. These Spanish commentators don't just outshine the Tyldesleys of this world with patriotic bravado, they make Arthur Montford seem positively neutral.
There is though a marvellous informality which would never be seen anywhere in the UK. Here's the Queen of Spain meeting the players in the dressing room after last night's match
I somehow can't quite picture Liz dressed in the national colours exchanging pleasantries with a semmit-clad Craig Gordon in the bowels of Hampden Park.