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Tne best league in the world?

Post by Scottish » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:45 pm

The English Premiership often makes this claim. So too does La Liga. And three of the last eight Champions League titles have laded up in Milan. So which is the best?

Here's where the players still competing at the World Cup quarter-final stage earn their weekly corn/

37 Germany
33 Spain
25 Italy
19 England
13 Holland
11 Argentina
7 Portugal
5 Brazil, France
4 Mexico, Paraguay
3 Chile, Ghana
2 Colombia, Turkey
1 Belgium, Ecuador, Egypt, Greece, Norway, Qatar, Russia, Scotland, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, Uruguay

And for those players left in the semi-finals:

28 Germany
24 Spain
11 Holland
8 England
6 Italy
3 Chile, Portugal
1 Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, France, Russia, Scotland, Sweden, Turkey, Uruguay

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Post by the hibLOG » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:48 am

Um, which World Cup semi-finalist currently graces the SPL?
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Post by Scottish » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:11 am

Edson Braffheid is registered as still being with Celtic by FIFA.

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Post by the hibLOG » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:49 am

Technically his loan was until the end of the 09-10 season surely? Shouldn't he officially be a Bayern Munich player? FIFA are probably busy with other things at the mo.
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Post by Scottish » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:32 pm

I think it is based on the club holding the registration at the time of submission of squad. David Villa, for instance, is down as Valencia even though he signed for Barcelona more than a month ago.

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Post by sureitsza » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:52 pm

It is something to do with the tranfer "Window" shut until 30th June and any re-registrations, tranfers etc not done until 1st July when the "Window" opens that is how these players are listed with their "present" club?

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Post by the hibLOG » Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:30 pm

Ok, we'll give Sprafheid the benefit of the doubt. So, next question, when was the last time a Scottish League player was in the squad of a World Cup Finalist? Shockeroonie.
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Post by Scottish » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:25 pm

Has there been one? Guivarch joined Rangers after the 1998 tournament and Joe Baker failed to make the 1966 England squad and was playing for Arsenal by then anyway. These are the only ones I can think of who are remotely close but I'd be interested to know if there have been any.

Last Scot to appear in a World Cup Final was Hugh Dallas when he was fourth official in 2002.

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Post by the hibLOG » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:11 am

There will of course be some reflected glory down Govan way at Van Bronkhorst's presence.

The nearest miss I can think of would be the four England players then playing for Rangers who came within a crossbar's width of the 1990 final. Other than that I don't think there would ever have been any Scottish League players involved even at the semi-final stage.
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Post by the hibLOG » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:50 am

And another thing:

Wesley Sneijder already has Scudetto, Coppa Italia and Champions League winners medals from this season in his trophy cabinet. He could add a World Cup one to that. Anyone ever completed such a haul before?
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Post by Sat31March1928 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:16 am

the hibLOG wrote:And another thing:

Wesley Sneijder already has Scudetto, Coppa Italia and Champions League winners medals from this season in his trophy cabinet. He could add a World Cup one to that. Anyone ever completed such a haul before?
No.

There was a piece in the Guardian about it. All previous instances of the 'treble' took place in non World Cup years. Though Scotland did become World Champions in 1967 .......
Europe's Treble winners prior to Inter were Celtic (1967), Ajax (1972), PSV Eindhoven (1988), Manchester United (1999) and Barcelona (2009). None was in a World Cup year. The strongest echo is from Sneijder's homeland, where Hans van Breukelen, Ronald Koeman, Berry van Aerle and Gerald Vanenburg won the Dutch Treble with PSV and went on to win the 1988 European Championship.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010 ... -world-cup
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Post by lbb » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:26 am

I can't remember if Lionel Charbonnier joined Rangers before or after the World Cup in 1998. I have a feeling it was probably after the tournament.

France '98 also throws up the possibility of Arthur Numan and Gio van Bronckhorst at the semi-final stage as Scottish League players.

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Post by Scottish » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:06 am

All the players you mention were registered after the tournament. As the hibLOG surmises above there were four Rangers players in the England squad of 1990 - Terry Butcher Trevor Steven, Gary Stevens, Chris Woods. The last two remained on the bench throughout the semi-final that year but as Butcher was replaced by Steven there was a Rangers player on the field for all 120 minutes.

BTW don't go to the official FIFA site for information. They have no clubs listed for any of the England 1990 squad other than Paul Gascoigne. And they have him down as a Boro player!

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Post by Sat31March1928 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:23 am

I had Dave McPherson down as a Hearts player for Euro 1992 (IIRC) as this was in a lot of sources. He actually signed in between the friendly vs Norway on 3rd June and the first group game on 12th June.


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Post by Scottish » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:06 pm

The whole thing is confusing. Much has been made of seven Barcelona players in Spain's semi-final starting line-up but, as I mentioned earlier, David Villa appears as a Valencia player on FIFA's squads list.

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