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Coaches to Norway and Sweden

Post by mackem50 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:36 pm

In 1946 the English FA sent 15 coaches to Norway and Sweden, has anyone ever seen the list of Coaches?

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Re: Coaches to Norway and Sweden

Post by Scottish » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:53 pm

Don't know about the full list but I can give you three. In an article entitled "Our Coaching Is Not Good Enough" in the Daily Worker Football Annual 1946-47, England international Frank Soo bemoans the state of coaching compared to the continent, saying: "Many top-class footballers have, during this summer,been instructing lads who in a few years time will be visiting Britain eager to inflict more defeats on us. Among those coaches are many English international players. Hundreds of Norwegian lads can say they have been coached by Frank Swift, Laurie Scott and Freddie Steele among others. How many British boys can say the same thing?"

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Re: Coaches to Norway and Sweden

Post by HibeeJibee » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:23 pm

Mackem50 - I can tell you 11 of them as the played an Unofficial International against Norway, on Friday 2nd August at Oslo in front of 25,000, winning 1-0 with a goal by Curtis. Team was:

Swift (Manchester City)
Scott (Arsenal)
Guthrie (Crystal Palace)
Wright (Exeter)
Buckingham (Spurs)
O'Callaghan (Fulham)
McCormick (Fulham)
Beasley (Fulham)
Ainsley (Leeds)
Curtis (Arsenal)
Wrigglesworth (Man Utd)


According to 'British & Irish Special & Intermediate Internationals' by Keith Warsop, p28.


Note: there was separate RAF Tour/visit to Norway earlier that summer, May 1946, when the likes of Matthews, Mortensen, Soo, Franklin & Ditchburn apparently played.
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Re: Coaches to Norway and Sweden

Post by mackem50 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:27 pm

Thanks,that's four I have now. The only one I knew was George Raynor who went to Sweden. He became Sweden national manager and took them to the 1958 World cup final 8 years before Alf Ramsey did it for England. I think Bob Kelly was one of the 15 but I haven't been able to confirm that.,
Just seen the latest post,if we add Steele,Raynor and maybe Kelly that's 14!

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Re: Coaches to Norway and Sweden

Post by leicester » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:09 pm

Yorkshire Evening Post of 11.5.46 gives list of 22 of the 26 players on three-month contracts to coach in Norway.
NB that these were active players rather than specialist coaches at that point, and they were under the co-ordination of Tom Mitchell, the then York City manager.

T Holley & G Ainsley (Leeds); T Barkas (Halifax); W Wrigglesworth (Man U); G Beeson (Walsall); W Whittaker (Brentford); J McCormick & A Beasley (Fulham); JE Kelly (York); R Johnstone (Sunderland); RG Davies (Forest); HE Wright (Derby); R Bowden (Newcastle); F Swift (Man C); E Taylor & H Wright (Wolves); J Guthrie (Portsmouth); AL Fenwick (Sheff Wed); W Boyes (Everton); L Scott & G Marks (Arsenal); VJ Buckingham (Spurs)

No mentions apparent at that period of a specific similar initiative from the FA with regard to Sweden.

PT

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Re: Coaches to Norway and Sweden

Post by mackem50 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:34 pm

Hi Leicester, thanks for the reply which confirms hibees reply. This is getting interesting,I wonder if there two batches of coaches out there in 1946? The Association Game: A history of British football. Mathew Taylor," The FA sent 15 coaches to Norway and Sweden in 1946 , including the former Rotherham and Bury outside right George Raynor" I am researching the ex Burnley and England player Bob Kelly,he was in Norway early 1946, whether he was one of the "15" I do not know. There appears to have been a lot of activity in Norway and Sweden around this time. I am researching another guy, Reg Trim,he left a coaching job in Portugal in 1947 to coach a Swedish WORKS team.

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