Leatherstocking asked: Was that Scotland in disguise last night vs. Algeria?
I don't know about that, but I certainly feel Friday night in Cape Town was maybe England's Iran.
I certainly know England don't have an Archie Gemmill, but, just in case, let's hope Slovenia have a Johnny Rep in their line-up.
scottish wrote:Europe's 'big five' countries - the ones which dominate club football - have been atrocious so far. The combined record of England, France, Germany, Spain & Italy to date is P8 W1 D4 L3 F6 A7 Pts 7
Gorgiewave wrote:
Why do you place France above Holland?
The European trophies record reads:
Holland: 11
France: 1
Snuff wrote:
I don't know about that, but I certainly feel Friday night in Cape Town was maybe England's Iran.
scottish wrote:Gorgiewave wrote:
Why do you place France above Holland?
The European trophies record reads:
Holland: 11
France: 1
Scotland fare better than France in that respect but I wouldn't place us above them. What I meant was that these are the countries that are consistently the top ranked in Europe and regularly have three or four Champions League entries. For over a decade now these have been the five top ranked European countries in club football. Holland has not made the top five since 1999 - when England were ranked 6th - and not above France since 1989.
Snuff wrote:
That despair was doubtless deepened by my watching venue: a pub in Saffron Walden
Snuff wrote:I feel the many genuine England fans are, today, feeling as dejected as I did back in 1978. Many years hence, as the successors to "the Golden Generation" tarnish before their eyes - veteran England fans will sigh and say: "Terrible yes, but not as bad as Algeria".
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