scottish wrote:Hi there and welcome to the forum. I seriously doubt that Renton were founded as a specifically Catholic or Irish club. Such clubs tended to have an obvious Irish association in their name - like Hibernian.
.The 1856 Fair seems to have been the occasion of a particularly violent punch-up, which had sectarian overtones to it, since it involved local factory workers and shipwrights from Dumbarton in fights with Irishmen who had by now come into the area to work. This could well have been a continuation of disturbances that started in Dumbarton in 1855 after Orange meetings were held in the burgh. It highlights that by the mid 1850's there were a significant number of Irish people in the Vale, and in Renton.
They were escaping the Potato Famine of 1847 - 48 which killed millions in their own land, and as well as working on the building of the railway, they worked in the construction of the modern brick-built factory buildings which characterised the Leven's banks during the 1850's and 60's, and then in the factories themselves.
scottish wrote:There were large Irish populations in many parts of Scotland following the famine - and from all parts of Ireland at that. Regarding names: if you look at the Renton line-up for the Scottish Cup semi-final of 1874' there were no distinctive Irish names in the team.
I can't think of any specific instance of an Irish or Irish descent club which didn't include some reference to their roots in the club name.
St Cuthbert Wanderers is one of the oldest clubs in the South of Scotland League. The club was formed in the year 1879 by several members of the congregation of St Cuthberts Catholic Church in the High Street (which became the present St Andrew and St Cuthberts Church, behind the town's Sheriff Court House.)
Prior to going to church one Sunday morning in 1879 around seven or eight male members of the congregation talked about forming a football club. Some men involved in these discussions were Michael Crossan, Tom Branney, William Flannigan, James Crossan, George Murphy and William Murray.
The first meeting took place in St Cuthberts School shelter when each gentleman vowed to save three pounds and return in a month's time to get a club going. The total amount involved to get the club up and running came to fifty pounds, which included several donations from well wishers. After a few fund-raising dances in the Church's St Andrew's Hall, the final meeting to gather a team was called. Office Bearers were elected with Chairman Robert McMonies, Secretary George Murphy and William Flannigan as Treasurer.
VERY OLD RENTON RFC BADGE.
HISTORY : Renton FC was founded in West Dumbartonshire in 1872.
The Club was founded by St Bernards Roman Catholic Church and became the Biggest Club
in Scotland at the time.
They also won the WORLD CUP in 1888 beating West Bromwich Albion in The Final at Third Lanark`s
Cathkin Park Glasgow.
Renton`s colours was all dark blue, but had a mass following of Irish Catholic immigrents who
moved to the Clydeside and Dumbarton areas for Shipbuilding, thus the Green,White,Gold Colours
of the Badge and the intigrated F in The R - FC design.
History is stated that the Club Folded in 1922 due to the following now heading for Celtic Park Parkhead Glasgow,
so i have no idea of what age the Badge is just a guess maybe of early 1900`s ? it has a broach pin fitting no maker but in very good condition for its age.?
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