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Fastest Scotland international goal

Post by ScottishFA » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:54 am

Does anyone have definitive timings on the fastest goal scored by Scotland? (These days, a goal at any time of the game will do).

Newspaper reports are not particularly helpful. The two candidates I have are John White v West Germany, 6.5.1959 – ‘very first minute’ and Steve Chalmers v Brazil, 25.6.1966 – ‘within a minute of the start’ and ‘inside a minute’. However, there may be others.

Obviously there have been quicker goals at age group levels, I remember Gary Glen scoring against England in the Victory Shield in six or seven seconds, but I'm really just interested in the full national team.

And while we're at it, what is the fastest goal we have conceded?

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Re: Fastest Scotland international goal

Post by bluedragon » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:12 pm

Georges Aeby of Switzerland scored in the first minute in the friendly International in 1946 so he must be a contender for the earliest goal conceded. It is an interesting point as to when goal times (even if not accurately timed) started to appear against the scorers' name in the match summary in the results section the newspapers.

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Re: Fastest Scotland international goal

Post by bluedragon » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:35 pm

I have had a look at the RSSF records and searched for goalscorers with (1) after their name. This is the list, however, there may be other early goalscorers.

AGAINST SCOTLAND

(Match 2) 8th March 1873 (Friendly match)
ENGLAND - SCOTLAND 4-2
William Kenyon-Slaney (1)
(Match 47) 2nd April 1892 (9th Home International Championship)
SCOTLAND - ENGLAND 1-4 (0-4)
Edgar Chadwick (1)
(Match 190) 15th May 1946 (Friendly match)
SCOTLAND - SWITZERLAND 3-1 (3-1)
Georges Aeby (1)
(Match 203) 17th November 1948 (54th Home International Championship)
SCOTLAND - NORTHERN IRELAND 3-2 (1-2)
Dave Walsh (1)
(Match 241) 2nd April 1955 (60th Home International Championship)
ENGLAND - SCOTLAND 7-2 (4-1)
Dennis Wilshaw (1)
(Match 642) 18th February 2004 (Friendly match)
WALES - SCOTLAND 4-0 (2-0)
Robert Earnshaw (1)

FOR SCOTLAND

(Match 46) 26th March 1892 (9th Home International Championship)
SCOTLAND - WALES 6-1 (4-0)
William Thomson (1)
(Match 55) 30th March 1895 (12th Home International Championship)
SCOTLAND - IRELAND 3-1 (1-1)
William Lambie (1)
(Match 71) 7th April 1900 (17th Home International Championship)
SCOTLAND - ENGLAND 4-1 (4-1)
Robert McColl (1)
(Match 182) 8th December 1937 (Friendly match)
SCOTLAND - CZECHOSLOVAKIA 5-0 (3-0)
Andy Black (1)
(Match 244) 19th May 1955 (Friendly match)
AUSTRIA - SCOTLAND 1-4 (0-2)
Archie Robertson (1)
(Match 253) 6th April 1957 (62nd Home International Championship)
ENGLAND - SCOTLAND 2-1 (0-1)
Tommy Ring (1)
(Match 270) 6th May 1959 (Friendly match)
SCOTLAND - WEST GERMANY 3-2 (3-2)
John White (1)
(Match 319) 25th June 1966 (Friendly match)
SCOTLAND - BRAZIL 1-1 (1-1)
Steve Chalmers (1)
(Match 382) 5th February 1975 (1976 European Championship Qualifying Group 4)
SPAIN - SCOTLAND 1-1 (0-1)
Joe Jordan (1)
(Match 614) 24th March 2001 (2002 World Cup Qualifying Group 6)
SCOTLAND - BELGIUM 2-2 (2-0)
Billy Dodds (1)

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Re: Fastest Scotland international goal

Post by ScottishFA » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:30 pm

Thanks, that is quite an impressive list. A bit more research needed to check on exact times, obviously!

Robbie Earnshaw's goal for Wales was timed at 43 seconds.

However, Billy Dodds against Belgium is in the second minute (one minute 10 seconds) according to reports.

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Re: Fastest Scotland international goal

Post by bluedragon » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:46 pm

Gabe and I have been looking at some goal times for the RSSSF Scotland records. We came across this thread and thought we should post what we believe are the fastest goal times. We have only listed those where we have found a source that gives a time with seconds.

1. (Match 244) 19th May 1955 AUSTRIA - SCOTLAND 1-4 (0-2) Archie Robertson (“the twentieth second” -Glasgow Evening Times).

2. (Match 71) 7th April 1900 SCOTLAND - ENGLAND 4-1 (4-1) Robert McColl (“within less than forty seconds” - London Evening Standard).

3. (Match 614) 24th March 2001 SCOTLAND - BELGIUM 2-2 (2-0) Billy Dodds (1 minute 10 seconds – see post above).

4. (Match 55) 30th March 1895 SCOTLAND - IRELAND 3-1 (1-1) William Lambie (90 seconds – Londonderry Sentinel)

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Re: Fastest Scotland international goal

Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:32 pm

I was @ the Scotland vs. Brazil in 1966 & had been given a brand new stop watch as a present. Stevie Chalmers` goal came after 38 seconds. Pele`s equaliser came after 15min 3sec.

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Re: Fastest Scotland international goal

Post by bluedragon » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:39 pm

LEATHERSTOCKING wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:32 pm
I was @ the Scotland vs. Brazil in 1966 & had been given a brand new stop watch as a present. Stevie Chalmers` goal came after 38 seconds. Pele`s equaliser came after 15min 3sec.
Thank you. We will put Stevie Chalmers into second place at 38 seconds.

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