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1952 & 1960 Scottish League Cup Finals

Post by Carlucci » Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:42 am

Could you tell me some details about the two Scottish League Cup Finals played by Kilmarnock in 1952 vs Dundee and in 1960 vs Rangers. Could you give me line-ups, who were the scorers, the scoring sequence and the referee and everything you think it would be interesting for people to know about these games? I suppose David will be especially pleased to answer this question. Thanks and Cheers.

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Re: 1952 & 1960 Scottish League Cup Finals

Post by Scottish » Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:36 pm

Carlucci wrote: I suppose David will be especially pleased to answer this question. Thanks and Cheers.
Happier if they'd been games Killie had won :!:

The 1952-53 League Cup Final at Hampden on October 25th 1952 saw Dundee win 2-0 with both goals coming from Bobby Flavell in the last eight minutes.

Killie (fourth bottom of the B Division), having beaten Rangers in the semi-final, gave a good account of themselves against the Holders, Dundee, winning 13 corners to Dundee's 9 and winning 19 free kicks against 8. The Sunday Post (published in Dundee) said of Dundee's victory that they were "eleven men only too conscious of their narrow escape."

Teams were:
Dundee: B Henderson, Follon, Frew, Zeising, Boyd, Cowie, Toner, A Henderson, Flavell, Steel, Christie

Killie: Niven, Collins, Hood, Russell, Thyne, Middlemass, Henaughan, Harvey, Mays, Jack, Murray.

Attendance: 51,830. Referee was Jack Mowat of Glasgow.

On October 20th 1960 Killie met Rangers in the League Cup Final at Hampden six months after losing 2-0 to the same team in the Scottish Cup Final. The result was the same but it was a much better match. Ralph Brand put Rangers ahead after 37 minutes. With sixteen minutes remaining a hopeful Alex Scott cross found keeper Jimmy Brown off his line. The ball floated over the back-pedalling Brown's head, hit the inside of the post and dropped over the line.

This was the fourth competition (League, Scottish Cup, International tournament in America, League Cup) that Killie had finished second in in the past six months.

Teams were:
Rangers: Niven, Shearer, Caldow, Davis, Paterson, Baxter, Scott, McMillan, Millar, Brand, Wilson

Killie: J Brown, Richmond, Watson, Beattie, Toner, Kennedy, H Brown, McInally, Kerr, Black, Muir

Attendance was 82,063. Referee was Glasgow's Tom 'Tiny' Wharton

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Post by bobby s » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:21 pm

Bobby Flavell. Why have I heard that name before?
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Post by bobby s » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:24 pm

http://www.londonhearts.com/scores/play ... bobby.html

He was the gadgey who left Hearts to go and play in South America.

His son played for Hibs I believe...
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Post by Scottish » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:28 pm

Possibly because he had one of the most remarkable careers in Scottish football - from playing in the same team as Di Stefano to being a director of Albion Rovers with a lot more in between. Died earlier this year, aged 83.

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Post by bobby s » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:46 pm

Just a further observation, Toner in 1960 for Killie would have been Willie Toner? Who later played for Hibs?

Father of Kevin Toner, well known delightful female organ who does a pretty poor interpretation of a referee.
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Post by bobby s » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:47 pm

And something, not quite sure what, makes me think that McInally was Alan "I used to play for Bayern Munich" McInally's dad.
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Post by Mike Smith » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:28 pm

bobby s wrote:And something, not quite sure what, makes me think that McInally was Alan "I used to play for Bayern Munich" McInally's dad.
I think you're right Bobby. Jackie McInally is Alan's dad. Alan doesn't like to remind his great, good personal friends that he used to play for Bayern in Munich in Germany.......

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Post by Mike Smith » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:29 pm

bobby s wrote:Father of Kevin Toner, well known delightful female organ who does a pretty poor interpretation of a referee.
:lol: :lol:
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Post by Scottish » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:59 pm

Correct on both counts. Willie Toner was transferred to Hibs and Jackie McInally is Alan's father. He was one of four players in that losing side (Matt Watson, Frank Beattie and Bertie Black were the others) who won a league championship medal in 1965.

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Post by Mike Smith » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:41 pm

I was just six months old when Hearts won the 1962 League Cup Final. Somewhat controversially by all accounts - 'scottish' will be able to confirm the details!

Tiny Wharton - now there was a referee!

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Post by Sat31March1928 » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:52 pm

Mike Smith wrote:I was just six months old when Hearts won the 1962 League Cup Final. Somewhat controversially by all accounts - 'scottish' will be able to confirm the details!

Tiny Wharton - now there was a referee!

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http://www.londonhearts.com/scores/mrep/1962102701.htm

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Post by Scottish » Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:30 pm

Mike Smith wrote:Tiny Wharton - now there was a referee!

:lol:
Aye, right. When he handed over a cheque towards the rebuilding of Rugby Park in 1994 when he was head of the Football Trust in Scotland it was the first decision he'd given in Killie's favour in 40 years.

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