Patrick O'Connell - Dumbarton 1919/20

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Patrick O'Connell - Dumbarton 1919/20

Postby nightfire » Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:12 pm

Can anyone provide me with details about Patrick O'Connell's one season (1919/20) with Dumbarton?
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Postby scottish » Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:21 pm

He played 31 times in the League and twice in the Scottish Cup, scoring no goals. He made his debut at right-half in the opening game of the season on Auguts 16th 1919 v Ayr United at Boghead (1-1) and his final outing was at centre-half at Aberdeen (4-3 to the Dons) in the third last match of the season on April 24th 1920.

His first three appearances were at right-half with all the rest at centre-half barring the home game v Hamilton on September 27th 1919 when he again played at No. 4.
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Postby nightfire » Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:29 pm

scottish wrote:He played 31 times in the League and twice in the Scottish Cup, scoring no goals. He made his debut at right-half in the opening game of the season on Auguts 16th 1919 v Ayr United at Boghead (1-1) and his final outing was at centre-half at Aberdeen (4-3 to the Dons) in the third last match of the season on April 24th 1920.

His first three appearances were at right-half with all the rest at centre-half barring the home game v Hamilton on September 27th 1919 when he again played at No. 4.


Thanks.

Not often that you can say that the former manager of Barcelona and Real Betis (the only season they won La Liga) was a former Dumbarton player albeit for 1 season.
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Postby scottish » Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:47 pm

If Dumbarton's bid for Cruyff had come off it would have been two :D
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Patrick O'Connell

Postby Carlucci » Sun May 07, 2006 12:27 am

Where was Patrick O'Connell born? Could you tell me some information about his playing and managerial career in Britain and in Spain. I know he was Real Betis manager when they became League Champions in 1934-35, and then he was Barcelona manager in 1935-36 when they were beaten by Real Madrid 2-1 at Mestalla in the Spanish Championship ("Copa"). Maybe he was also Racing de Santander manager, but I'm not sure.

Did Patrick O'Connell stay in Spain after Civil War broke out? Could you tell what happened with Patrick O'Connell after the Spanish Civil War was finished?
Do you know something about Patrick O'Connell being purified or investigated by the fascist authorities on having finished the Spanish civil war? That wasn't a surprise in those terrible days. The great Ricardo Zamora for example, was arrested and taken to a republican prison for writing sports articles in one daily right-wing " The Debate ". People didn't know anything about him for some time and a lot of people thought he had been shot dead like thousands of people in the first months of the war. But fortunately he was released and could go to France, when he spent the war years playing for Nice. When war was finished, and he returned to Spain and became manager of At. Aviación ( a merger between Atlético de Madrid and a military team - Aviación Nacional-).
Nevertheless, also on having finished the war, it was judged by the new authorities and it happened a few months from May 1940 to October removed from his trainer's charge in At. Aviación.
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Postby nightfire » Sun May 07, 2006 5:43 pm

Patrick was manager of Racing Santander between 1922 & 1928 and won Campeonato de Cantabria: 5 in the following years:


1923/24
1924/25
1925/26
1926/27
1928/29
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Patrick O'Connell

Postby Carlucci » Sun May 07, 2006 10:18 pm

I've found out that Patrick O'Connell was Rácing de Santander manager from 1922 to 1929. And after the Spanish Civil war he was in charge of Rácing in 1947-48 season and 1948-49 Patrick O'Connell although he didn't finish that season.
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Patrick O'Connell

Postby Carlucci » Mon May 08, 2006 3:14 pm

Mr. O'Connell was in charge of Real Oviedo in 1929-30 & 1930-31 seasons.
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Postby scottish » Mon May 08, 2006 8:44 pm

Patrick O'Connell was born in Dublin in 1887 and started out with Belfast Celtic before joining Sheffield Wednesdsay (then The Wednesday) in 1908. He played 18 League games then moved from the Owls to the Tigers, signing for Hull City in 1912. He played 58 times for Hull and scored one goal.

He was capped by Ireland twice while with Wednesday and a further three times while with Hull.

His next club was Manchester United in 1914. In his one official season there he played 34 League games. He scored on his debut in the opening game of the season in a 3-1 Old Trafford defeat against Oldham. Changed days now. In 1914-15 Oldham were one point away from the title and United one point away from relegation. His only other goal was in a 2-2 home draw v Middlesbrough near the end of the season. He also played once in the FA Cup, ironically on the losing side against The Wednesday.

Dumbarton was his next port of call then he moved on to Rochdale, ending his playing days in Britain at Accrington Stanley where he played 19 times in the Third Division North's inaugural season in 1921-22, scoring once.
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Postby nightfire » Mon May 08, 2006 8:56 pm

I think he may have been the first Irishman to captain Manchester United
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Postby bertmart » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:33 pm

I'm doing some research on O'Connell and would love to hear of any sources that may be reliable points of information on him, particularly with regards his one season with Dumbarton

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Postby scottish » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:31 am

According to the Dumbarton history 'The Sons of the Rock' he made his debut at right-half (though he played mainly as a centre-half) in the first league game of the season against Ayr United at Boghead on 16/8/1919. He played thirty times in the league and twice in the Scottish Cup. His final game for the Sons was in the league against Aberdeen at Pittodrie on April 24th 1920.
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