Q Brian Cunnison
asks: "Including Scottish Cup, Scottish League Cup
and Drybrough Cup since 1947 how many semi-finals
have been played between Hibs and Rangers and how
many have Rangers won? "
A Methinks Hibby Brian is out to
rub it in a bit following Hibs recent win over Rangers in the
League Cup. The teams have been drawn together in the semi-finals
twelve times and have played sixteen matches. The total
is 8-5 in Hibs favour with three draws, broken down as
follows:
Scottish Cup
Hibs 2 (1958, 1972)
Rangers 2 (1948, 1971)
Draws 3 (1958, 1971, 1972)
League Cup
Hibs 4 (1972-73, 1985-86,1991-92, 2003-04)
Rangers 2 (1946-47, 1985-86)
(1985-86 was a two leg tie. Each club won one leg. Hibs won
on aggregate)
Drybrough Cup
Hibs 2 (1972, 1973)
Rangers 1 (1974)
I presume that's one satisfied customer!
Q More on Rangers and Hibs
from Dave Thomson: "When was the last time a club
beat both halves of the old firm in any cup, not including the
final?"
A Before Hibs on Feb 5th 2004
it was 1985-86 in the League Cup when Hibs
(again!) beat Celtic on penalties in the last eight and Rangers
over two legs in the semis.
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Q Peter Chalmers wants to know
"What year did Jock Stein first play for Albion Rovers?"
A It was during the Second World
War. Stein joined Rovers shortly after the start of the 1942-43
season. As a coal miner he was in a 'reserved' occupation
and exempt from conscription into the forces.
Jock stayed at Cliftonhill for eight seasons playing 236
games for the Coatbridge side and was part of the team which won
the 'B' Division title in 1948. He left Lanarkshire for Welsh
club Llanelli in 1950, returning to Scotland, and
Celtic, in December 1951. The rest is, as they say,
history.
Q 'Splashpenn' wants to know
"In which year was Derek Johnstone born?"
A He was born on November 4th
1953
Q Robert Houston asks: "Can
you verify please ? Were Celtic knocked out of the European
Cup in the preliminary round in season 67/68 whilst defending
the trophy?"
A Yes AND No! Celtic
were the first European Cup holders not to receive a bye when defending
their title. They were knocked out at the first time of asking by
Dynamo Kiev, losing 2-1 at home and drawing 1-1 away. But
the naming/numbering of rounds by UEFA is confusing.
It wasnt a preliminary round in the sense of an extra round
to eliminate teams in order to even up the numbers but it was described
as a preliminary round at the time in the press. The News
of the World Annual covering that season has Celtic
playing Kiev in the FIRST round and Man Utd against Hibernians
of Malta in the PRELIMINARY round even though it was the
SAME stage of the competition!
'Rothmans Football Yearbook' is just as unclear. What
is the preliminary round in the results page becomes the first round
in team line-ups.
Perhaps the last word should be given to UEFA.
On their website they say Celtic were beaten in 1967-68 in the FIRST
round.
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Q The Midlands
quiz-goers are back, seeking the answer to this query: "Who
was the first international to play for both Rangers and Celtic?"
A Tom Dunbar
was the first to turn out for both and Allan Martin also
played for the pair but the first to be capped while with
both Celtic and Rangers was
a remarkable character called George Livingstone who not
only played for both the Old Firm but also for Man City
and Man Utd and was also on the books of both Everton
and Liverpool!
Dumbarton-born Livingstone started out with local sides Sinclair
Swifts and Artizan Thistle before joining Parkhead
FC. He then moved on to Dumbarton and Hearts before
travelling south to Everton. He didn't feature in the first
team there but was a regular at Sunderland for a season before
joining Celtic in 1901.
He played in the losing Scottish Cup Final side of 1902 before being
transferred to Liverpool. After a season there it was on
to Manchester City where he played in the side that won the
FA Cup in 1904. He was with City for over three seasons - a long
time by George's standards - before signing for Rangers in
January 1907. After two years at Ibrox it was on to Manchester
United in 1909 where he spent the remainder of his playing career,
retiring in 1914 shortly before his 38th birthday.
George was a well-travelled and adaptable player, at home as an
inside-forward on either side of the field and also at right-half.
He was unfortunate, given the teams he played for, not to have accumulated
more medals. Hearts won the title in 1896-97 and Man Utd
won the League in 1910-11 but he didn't play enough games
to qualify for a medal in either campaign. Oddly enough the Old
Firm teams won nothing during George's time with them. His FA Cup
medal seems scant reward for a player who served with the giants
of Glasgow, Liverpool and Manchester as well as Hearts and Sunderland.
George made his Scotland debut in the ill-fated game
against England in 1902. This was the first Ibrox disaster when
26 spectators lost their lives when the terracing collapsed.
Subsequently, this match was deemed unofficial and
caps awarded do not show in official records.
He was also unfortunate to receive just two official caps for Scotland
- v England in 1906 and Wales the following year. After retiring
from playing, George set up a plumbing and gas-fitting business
but he didn't sever his connections with the game. Following a brief
spell as Dumbarton manager at the end of World War One he took up
the Trainer's role with Rangers from 1920-27 then performed a similar
task at Bradford City 1928-35.
George Livingstone died in January 1950, aged 73.
Q Darren Gray asks about the
"1976 Scottish League Cup final. Can you list all the Aberdeen
and Celtic players?"
A Teams for the match at Hampden on Nov 6th 1976 were:
Aberdeen: Clark, Kennedy, Williamson, Smith, Garner, Miller,
Sullivan, Scott, Harper, Jarvie (Robb), Graham
Celtic: Latchford, McGrain, Lynch, Edvaldsson, McDonald, Aitken,
Doyle, Glavin, Dalglish, Burns (Lennox), Wilson
Aberdeen won 2-1 after extra time with goals from Jarvie and
Robb. Dalglish scored for Celtic. Score at 90 mins 1-1. Crowd: 69,707
Q Colin Dailly wants us to "Settle
a argument for me, Did John Rollo ever play for Rangers?
"
A Ive read elsewhere that
Johnny Rollo was a Rangers player but he never played for
Rangers first team in any recognised competition. Prior to going
to the USA he was with St Johnstone. Once in America Rollo
became a prominent member of the Bethlehem Steel team which
was one of the biggest clubs in the States in the 1920s.
Q
Why SFAQs? What does that mean?
A FAQs (Frequently Asked
Questions) can be found on many websites, mostly relating to
technical matters and SFA stands for (amongst other things)
Scottish Football Association. So a neat amalgamation of
acronyms gives us SFAQs which means Scottish Football
Answers (to) Questions.
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